I just read on MIRS News (I’m not going to link or copy their text here because it is a registration site) that there is a deal in the works for the smoking ban. Sen. Bishop has said he will consider exempting the Detroit casinos and he will NOT sit on the bill. He expects a vote after his caucus figures out what they want to do.
Another Smoking Ban Update
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Smoking Ban Bill Update
3 06 2008HB 5074 has been transmitted to the Senate and today, it was referred to the Committee on Government Operations and Reform which is the same committee HB 4163 was referred to when it was sent to the Senate.
Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop discharged HB 4163 from committee for a vote on the floor. At that time, the Senate ammended the bill to get rid of all exemptions. At the time, Senator Bishop said he did not favor a smoking ban, but let the bill be called because that’s what the people wanted. After passing the Senate, the House sat on the bill for a few days before calling a different bill, HB 5074 and using it as a vehicle bill. They amended HB 5074 which was bill written to ban smoking in college dorms. They struck all of that language and inserted the original language of HB 4163. HB 5074 passed and was sent to the Senate.
How futile is this? It took the Senate FIVE months to call HB 4163 then they changed it. There’s only four weeks left in this session. Does the House really think Sen. Bishop will allow another vote on the same bill they’ve already amended? Currently, HB 4163 sits in the house. They can still call this bill before the session ends and pass it without the exemptions. HB 5074 sits in committee and will probably die there. The Committee on Government Operations and Reform hasn’t met since November, so there won’t even be a committee vote on the issue.
The Detroit News ran a story this morning ont the debate. There was one part in particular I had a problem with.
After Ohio voters approved a ban in 2006, bars in Toledo were hammered and many patrons flocked to bars just across the state line such as M.T. Loonies in southern Monroe County. Sales rose 20 percent to 30 percent and the crush of smokers prompted general manager Craig Herbster, 26, to hire six more workers.
What about Cleveland? What about Cincinatti? What about Columbus? The paper chose to pick one metro area close to a state that doesn’t ban smoking. I’m not denying that people are doing that, but let’s look at Michigan’s case. Obviously, people are not going to flock to Ohio to smoke because they can’t. They can’t run to Canada. There will be a small stretch near the Indiana border and a small stretch of the UP along the Wisconsin border that will have to deal with this for a little while. Michigan is in a unique situation that the borders of non-smoking states are relatively small. There might be a tiny percentage of business leaving Michigan so they can smoke in a bar, but a percentage so small no one will even notice.
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Campaign for Smoke Free Air Optimistic
28 05 2008Even though I’v been a vocal supporter of an outright ban, I think today’s vote was the nail in the coffin. I really don’t see Sen. Bishop letting a second, yet exact same, version of the smoking ban being called before the session ends on June 26. However, the lobbyists disagree with me.
Lansing, Mich. – The Campaign for Smokefree Air (CSA) is encouraged today by the state House’s actions in moving the smokefree bill forward, but is disappointed that it chose to include exemptions, causing the bill to be sent to the other chamber. “We were pleased by the additional support in the House, in that nine more representatives see the need for smokefree air. However, we are concerned that the House did not concur with the Senate passed version and instead allowed exemptions,” said Susan Schechter, spokesperson for CSA. “All employees deserve the same protections from secondhand smoke. We will continue to work with both chambers to pass a comprehensive smokefree workplace bill.”
The House passed a vehicle bill, HB 5074, which is essentially the same bill that was passed by the chamber in December. The bill was approved 65-39, and sent back to the Senate for consideration.
Of the 33 states that already have smokefree workplace laws, more than two dozen regulate smoking inside casinos, including six that provide smokefree gaming areas and halls. Three more states (Montana, Nebraska and Oregon) will expand their smokefree policies to include casinos in 2009. The city council in Atlantic City recently voted to close the loophole in New Jersey’s law that exempted casinos — all worksites in the city will be smokefree starting in October.
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HB 4163 Wednesday Update
28 05 2008The House of Representatives has already ended their session today without voting on HB 4163. There was discussion of the bill when they were voting on HB 5074 which bans smoking in college dormotories. There was a discussion of why they need to pass this bill if HB 4163 would pretty much ban smoking in all workplaces.
UPDATE – The Lansing State-Journal put an article on-line saying the House DID in fact pass a smoking ban bill this afternoon. However, it was not HB 4163 which was sent back to by the Senate. I went back and looked at the text of HB 5074 as passed this afternoon and it is THAT bill that was passed with the same language as the original HB 4163.
This is why I should pay attention when I’m watching The House. I heard them talking about the the smoking ban during the discussion, but the bill title was about college dorms. If you look at the enrolled bill and the passed bill, they don’t even resemble each other other than the word smoking.
So, to make this clear, what happened was the House passed the same bill they passed originally exempting Casino’s, bingo halls, and cigar bars. The bill goes back to the Senate which will now have to vote, again, on the same bill they’ve already amended and sent back to the House. In short, things have probably hit a permanent road block.
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Could the House Vote on the Smoking Ban Tonight?
27 05 2008I’ve got House TV on in the background and at 7:45 PM, they’re still in session. I’ve heard from friends in the media that phone calls to both caucuses and the Clerk have had some wierd answers. The Democrats caucused for quite a while late this afternoon and as of this writing, the House “At Ease At The Call Of The Chair.” I’ll keep the video feed up while I’m watching TV tonight to see if anything happens.
8:07 PM – The House has been called back to order.
8:20 PM – I’ve been told by that same friend that the House has “a lot of business” to deal with and they are planning on staying late into the night. Still wouldn’t answer whether HB 4163 would be called tonight or not.
8:29 PM – In another surprise move, the House in now voting on SB 776 which is the Partial Birth Abortion Ban, so it looks like they really are expecting a long night.
10:54 – They are STILL in session. They just announced there will be no further voting tonight, but the House will be back in session tomorrow (Wednesday) morning at 10 AM instead of their usual 1:30 PM start time.
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Smoking Ban Being Held Up
25 05 2008Well, just like I predicted, the smoking ban is being held up in the house because the Senate version makes no exceptions for casino’s or cigar shops. Cigar shops I’m on board with, but not enough to hold it up. Casino’s shouldn’t be protected just because lawmakers are afraid the Detroit casino’s will be hurt.
The Lansing State-Jounral had an article yesterday that desciribes Speak of the House Leader Andy Dillon as sympathetic to the casino’s. Dillon plans to call a vote on the ban, but he plans to add the exemptions back into the bill which means it would have to go back to the Senate for another vote.
“We’ll see if the Senate would like to negotiate,” Dillon spokesman Greg Bird said.
The approach is not sitting well with Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop, R-Rochester. “If the people of Michigan want a ban on smoking, it needs to be across the board,” Bishop spokesman Matt Marsden said.
I’m totally in agreement with Bishop’s camp here. Call the freakin bill as is. Give it a year and see just how it works. You can’t pick and chose which businesses are exempt. If you’re going to exempt casinos, then you really should exempt taverns (bars that don’t serve food). I mean, they’re both adult oriented businesses, right?
This is stupid. Mr. Dillon, call the bill as is and let the legislature decide.
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Bottle Return Expansion
20 05 2008One of the new things I had to learn upon moving to Michigan is saving cans. It’s one of those things I’m kind of shocked that every state doesn’t do, but it took me a while to get used to it. Now, I have a garbage bag hanging in my closet and everytime I finish a Pepsi, the can goes in that garbage….not the regular one.
I was more than a little surprised that the bottle return includes pop and beer, but not bottled water. For a while, my girlfriend and I used to go through at least a case a week. We finally realized all the waste and bought a Brita Water Pitcher. That cut down drastically on all the waste we contributing.
I came across a blurb in a newspaper a few weeks ago about HB 6000 which will ammend the current bottle return law to include bottled water. I contacted the bill’s sponsor Rep. Mark Meadows of East Lansing to see why change now.
…the buying public’s taste has changed from carbonated beverages to bottled water. We are now finding increased litter from the latter on roadsides etc. We need to develop a system to recycle/reuse water bottles. That is why I introduced the bill.
I think this is a great idea. There’s criticism right now because the retail industry feels like they are becoming Michigan’s trash collectors. I don’t buy that at all. We all need to take responsibility. If the citizens of Michigan are willing to collect trash in their home in order to recycle then the stores should take the responsibility to recycle. It’s win-win for everyone. I don’t see a loser here.
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Thursday Smoking Ban Thread
15 05 2008The House is schedule to convene at noon. I’m not sure how much of it I’m going to be able to watch. I need to head to Champaign, IL today for some weekend work at the University of Illinois. I’ll be adding reviews of the restaurnts in Champaign and on the way there if I stop for some reason. I do a lot of work in Big Ten towns, so I’m thinking I’ll do some travel reviews for those of you who follow MSU. While I’m gone, remember to check my Lansing area food reveiws. I’ll just keep this thread going today to update on HB 4163 if it gets called.
UPDATE – 11:08 PM – Sorry that I didn’t get a chance to update earlier. I’m now in the Land of Lincoln where I’ve been doing some catching up with friends and family before heading to Champaign. I’m looking at the HB 4163 on the Legislature’s website and it looks like the bill was NOT called today. Funny cause while I was watching the live feed, they mentioned a few Detroit TV stations were there…bet they were disappointed. The House doesn’t meet again until next Tuesday so there will be no movement until at least then.
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Liveblogging – HB 4163 5/14
14 05 2008HB 4163 wasn’t on the schedule for today, but I’ve got the webcast of today’s session on. I’m about a half hour late because I went to lunch with my girlfriend (so that means there’s a review coming later today). If there are any updates, I’ll update this post.
2:17 PM – Both parties are in caucus meetings now. They’ve passed a few bills this morning, but not the one we’re waiting on.
3:07 PM – The House has been called back to order and they’re starting business again.
3:11 PM – The House is At Ease again.
3:18 PM – Back to order
3:29 PM – Stupid me…how about checking the bill status. I just checked on the status HERE. The bill has been returned from the Senate but under House rules, the bill will be layed over for one day which means they won’t vote on it until at least tomorrow. No need to continue live blogging 😉
3:35 PM – The House has adjourned for the day. They will reconvene at noon tomorrow and that will be the first chance they have to pass the smoking ban.
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Smoke Free Rally at the Capitol
13 05 2008Today (Tuesday) was a huge day for hits on this site. Almost all of them came for info on the smoking ban. I ain’t stupid…if that’s what your coming for, then that’s what I’ll give, but while you’re here, be sure to check out the reviews and be sure to give me your opinions on places and suggestions on where to eat next….oh yeah, and don’t forget to bookmark the page 😉
Now, back to the business at hand. While I was sitting at home waiting for our new kitchen table to be delivered, the American Cancer Socity held a rally at the Capitol.
Meanwhile the American Cancer Society spent the day on the Capitol lawn reminding lawmakers that they can make a difference in the fight.
Smoking, lung cancer, and heart dissease are just a few of the battles in that war.“Many states have successfully passed this legislation and it hasn’t hurt business and I’m encouraged we’ll move forward as well” said Rep. Rick Shaffer (R-Three Rivers).
Miss Shoreline 2008 Stephanie Marion added, “I actually think it will bring more business into resteraunts and bars because it will bring those people that don’t like the smoking environment into those facilities and it will raise profits.”
WILX has a report on their website about the ban as well. They shed some light on why the ban wasn’t voted on today as expected.
“We will have and opportunity to concur our not concur with what the Senate has done as soon as they send it to us and we receive the bill from the secretary, we can do that,” said Andrew Meisner (D) Hazel Park.
So that’s why ther was no vote today. Again, the bill is not listed on tomorrow’s calendar, so it must not have been transmited to the house as of the end of the day today. I’ll try to watch the House session again tomorrow and live blog it just in case 🙂
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